The Spiceburger Problem

A continous debate has been going on at work (about four years), about the legitimacy of a spice burger. Specifically, if it is, in fact, a burger. The only thing both parties have agreed on is that they shouldn’t contain “twigs”.

Decide for yourself and maybe we can get enough interest and get government to clarify.


What the fuck is a spice burger?

According to this blog a spice burger is

“invented in the 1950s by Walsh Family Foods, [a spiceburger] is described on their website as “a delicious blend of Irish beef, onions, cereals and herbs & spices, coated with a traditional outer crumb“.

and according to wikipedia

“a patty made to a proprietary recipe of meats and spices… served in a greaseproof paper bag and eaten with the hands.”

They can be bought in a popular chippy in Banbridge for £1.35, and if you want to make your own: here’s a recepie

No bap?

No! According to Angela you can buy a “spice burger bap” for an extra 50p (or something).


So, it’s not a burger?

Well this dictionary definition of burger seems to agree (emphesis is my own).




1. A sandwich consisting of a bun, a cooked beef patty, and often other ingredients such as cheese, onion slices, lettuce, or condiments. Often used in combination: a cheeseburger.

2. A similar sandwich with a nonbeef filling. Often used in combination: a crab burger; a tofu burger.

So is it just a patty?

Yes, but here is where the confustion lies. Wikipedia say

“The patty itself is also called a burger, whether or not it served in a sandwich, especially in the United Kindgdom and Ireland, where the term “patty” is rarely used.”

Hold on! This sounds very similar to a pastie.

Wikipedia describes a pastie:

“Recipes vary, but the most common ingredients are minced pork, onion, potato and seasoning formed into a ’round’ (just like a burger) which is then covered in a batter mix and deep fried.”

Pasties don’t pretend to be burgers, and you can get pastie baps.


It should be called a spicepastie


*UPDATE* 16/08/2011

So it seems Her Majesty’s Government doesn’t care about the real issues..

Email goes on to say..

E-petitions will not be accepted if they:

  • contain offensive, joke or nonsense content
  • use language which may cause offence, is provocative or extreme in its views
  • use wording that is impossible to understand
  • include statements that amount to advertisements

If you’d like to submit a new e-petition, please read the site’s terms and conditions which explain the rules in detail.


HM Government e-petitions

I’m speechless. I can’t seem to find the rejected one on the website. Maybe it’s not bigoted or sensationalist enough, I don’t know. Though searching the website for burger I found this one.


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